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Post  fabrylama on Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:31 am

Hi Orux,
since the recent introduction of mtb:scale (mtb difficult scale) and sac:scale (hiking difficult scale) in openandromaps, I started fiddling with the xml themes, to create a good compromise. Soon noticed that's impossible to have a good theme for both hiking and biking, it would be much better to have two separate themes, but Orux only support one theme for every map. In the meantime I simply added a second map (with a different filename) with it's mapstyle.

Would be possible to add support for multiple themes on a single map? Maybe the naming of the xml could follow a rule like (for Italy.map) Italy.map-mtb.xlm and Italy.map-hike.xml or maybe you could check the path of the mapfile and the mapstyle, to see if are in the same directory and ignore the naming, this way we could use one map and several xml.

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Post  fabrylama on Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:14 pm

up Wink

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Post  orux on Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:41 am

fabrylama wrote:up Wink

Hi;

thanks;

added to my 'todo' list,

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Post  fabrylama on Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:46 am

Thank you Very Happy
P.S. very nice the new red interface Shocked

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Post  mhoff on Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:18 am

This is a feature I would also much appreciate. (Also because of OpenAndroMaps / MTB:scale and different maps fo hiking vs. biking. There is so many info in Openstreetmap that it doesn't fit into one theme with a clear view on small screens)

Grüße aus Heidelberg - Michael

BTW: Locus has a feature to use different Themes ...

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Post  kech61 on Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:24 am

orux wrote:
added to my 'todo' list,

Hi Orux,

These are realy good news cheers
Would it be possible to add custom symbols/patterns too, actually a lot of symbols are missing in standard mapsforge lib.
I would highly appreciate to see a solid theme swiitcher in my favorite app.

If you wand to see whats possible with mapsforge visit www.openandromaps.org
(its no advertisement, the maps are free!!)

best regards
Christian

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Post  TheDuke on Thu Jan 03, 2013 12:22 pm

Hi Orux,

more than one theme for mapsforge maps would be really a great thing.

greets
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Post  fabrylama on Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:27 pm

Hi Orux,
any news on this?

Fabrizio

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Post  kech61 on Sat Aug 24, 2013 8:12 am

UP Wink 

Hi Orux,
Is there a chance that we will see a themeswitcher for mapsforge with custom symbol/patterns?
I hate to constantly add new features in my maps for Locus only.

Dont get me wrong - I dont earn my living with the openandromaps, the donations cover the costs of the projekt plus a very few bucks for paddling, not more. So I dont want you to drive my (non existing Wink ) business.

I love Oruxmaps and used it from beginning on and want to support the APP with maps. A themeswitcher + custom symbols would make live much, much easier both for me and your big fan-community.

Edit: most important too would be relative paths to symbols/patterns folders

jm2c

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Post  Adriann on Sun Aug 25, 2013 7:48 pm

UP, UP, UP!

For me, Oruxmaps + Openandromaps change the world of offline outdoor navigation. I'm not a fun of big words, but this dream team is simply the best one from both free or paid apps, so you guys really deserve our donations or at least our thanks for your work. This is my opinion and I am sure I'm not the only one.
At this moment, a themeswitcher for mapsforge with custom symbols is the most important step to bring this dream team to a higher level, and to make us, your fans, really happy.

So UP UP UP :-)

Adrian

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Post  jonny-blue on Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:09 pm

For me, Oruxmaps + Openandromaps change the world of offline outdoor navigation.
+1 ... for me too. Very Happy

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Post  Maki on Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:33 pm

I second this request above anything else. The biggest limitation (actually the only real one) I find in Oruxmaps+OpenAndroMaps is the complete lack of alpine passes' names, which are an important item to see on maps. Custom symbols would allow to show this, since data is already present in the maps. Also the ability to switch between themes would allow to have different renderings for different needs (eg. a dark one to save battery with OLED displays on longer trips).

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Post  giogio on Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:38 pm

jonny-blue wrote:
For me, Oruxmaps + Openandromaps change the world of offline outdoor navigation.
+1 ... for me too. Very Happy
I complete quote that request.
I think Oruxmap and OpenAndroMaps are the best thing for the outdoor navigation!

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Post  Oliver2004 on Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:54 pm

Hi!!
Openandromaps & Orux the perfect combination, and with future Themes the best.

only a request Christian....the map "Spain_Portugal" is very big ...almost 700Mb!!!
please, please only Spain,
Potugal has a single map.

Thanks and sorry for my English Rolling Eyes

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Post  kech61 on Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:10 pm

Oliver2004 wrote:

only a request Christian....the map "Spain_Portugal" is very big ...almost 700Mb!!!
please, please only Spain,
Potugal has a single map.
Hi Oliver,

I did this bevore but it does'nt make real sense because with all neccessary overlaping of maps you save only about 70MB.

Best regards,
Christian

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Post  auriocus on Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:49 am

Hi, I would also love to see this feature. On my trips, I'm constantly switching mapstyles, because the standard theme displays also shop names, while the bike theme displays the routes. It's really annoying to kill oruxmaps, rename the themes in the file browser, restart oruxmaps. ...
Even a switcher without local icons would be a big win for me.

I think it has no sense to couple the maps with the theme as it is now. I would prefer to have a single folder with all the map themes and a button in the sidebar to choose from them. In the maps by Christian, all themes are identical for different countries, but my map folder is cluttered with xml files just to get this managed.

Thanks for the very nice tools, you both!

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Post  orux on Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:11 pm

auriocus wrote:Hi, I would also love to see this feature. On my trips, I'm constantly switching mapstyles, because the standard theme displays also shop names, while the bike theme displays the routes. It's really annoying to kill oruxmaps, rename the themes in the file browser, restart oruxmaps. ...
Even a switcher without local icons would be a big win for me.

I think it has no sense to couple the maps with the theme as it is now. I would prefer to have a single folder with all the map themes and a button in the sidebar to choose from them. In the maps by Christian, all themes are identical for different countries, but my map folder is cluttered with xml files just to get this managed.

Thanks for the very nice tools, you both!

Auriocus
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try with last beta--> www.oruxmaps.com/cs

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Post  kech61 on Sun Sep 08, 2013 10:58 am

orux wrote:

try with last beta--> www.oruxmaps.com/cs

orux
I'v provided a complete set of the new openandromaps themes with optimized folder structure for download:
www.openandromaps.org/wp-content/files/themes/orux_new/themes_orux_new.zip
Unzip the contents to /oruxmaps/mapstyles/ or a subdirectory like /oruxmaps/mapstyles/OAM/ (don't forget the /patterns /symbols folders) for the switching themes look at the oruxmaps site: http://www.oruxmaps.com/cs/

Its easy, works perfect, enjoy!

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Post  fabrylama on Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:25 am

Great!
Many thanks to Orux and Christian, I'll test asap!

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Post  kech61 on Sun Sep 08, 2013 12:52 pm

fabrylama wrote:Great!
Many thanks to Orux and Christian, I'll test asap!
Hi Fabrizio,

The Themes include mountain_pass=yes with usual symbol, this tag is already included in the maps.
The tower=observation and tower=communication that is defined in the theme will be operational with the next update, the tags are not included in maps right now.

I would kindly ask you take a look at the barriers, maybe you have symbols for this - its possible from now on in Oruxmaps.
And maybe... there might be some tags missing that you are used with oruxmaps - the new themes are derivates from Locus...

Best regards,
Christian

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Post  auriocus on Sun Sep 08, 2013 5:12 pm

Wow that was fast! Thank you very much. I'm on a bike tour through eastern Europe right now and could get the beta version via Wifi. This is immediately useful to me! The only thing I'm wishing for is an icon which I can put into the sidebar.

Greetings from Plavecky Stvrtok, Slovakia:)

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Post  fabrylama on Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:12 am

kech61 wrote: Hi Fabrizio,

The Themes include mountain_pass=yes with usual symbol, this tag is already included in the maps.
The tower=observation and tower=communication that is defined in the theme will be operational with the next update, the tags are not included in maps right now.

I would kindly ask you take a look at the barriers, maybe you have symbols for this - its possible from now on in Oruxmaps.
And maybe... there might be some tags missing that you are used with oruxmaps - the new themes are derivates from Locus...

Best regards,
Christian
Hi Christian, everything seems to be working as expected, I made a quick diff between the old and the new theme and all the tags seems to be present.
Regarding the barriers, I don't use symbols because they are not as visible as the red/green circles I use. I understand that, from a first time user point of view, it's not obvious what they mean, but a first time user can simply look at the map legend:D 
Furthermore I looked but I didn't find any nice symbols for the barriers, since neither opencyclemaps nor openmtbmaps renders them.

Thank you again
Fabrizio

PS. Could you also add barrier=stile in the theme (you already added it in the mapfile)? It should go with barrier=chain|lift_gate

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Post  Adriann on Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:23 pm

It works perfect. Like all you do :-).
Thank you Orux and thank you Christian!

P.S. And thank God this week I have time for a 3 day montainbikeing trip :-)

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Post  auriocus on Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:45 am

I have spotted these circles on the map, but could not make any sense of it. I don't like them, because a they don't resemble a barrier, and b they are much too intrusive with the vivid colour (pure green and red). When I'm back from my trip, I can draw icons for them. But I don't yet understand, what is the difference. Could you provide a link or photo of the different barriers?

Christian

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Post  fabrylama on Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:05 am

auriocus wrote:I have spotted these circles on the map, but could not make any sense of it. I don't like them, because a they don't resemble a barrier, and b they are much too intrusive with the vivid colour (pure green and red). When I'm back from my trip, I can draw icons for them. But I don't yet understand, what is the difference. Could you provide a link or photo of the different barriers?

Christian
Hi, I understand your frustration, probably is better to show barriers only to the mtb theme and not on the hike and bike.

Anyway, here's the general list with description of barriers
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:barrier
The supported barriers are:
-bollard: in the current theme is a small grey circle
-lift_gate, chain, cycle_barrier, stile: in the current theme a red and green circle
-gate: in the current theme a red and grey circle.

The reason for the different colors is that with the bollard you can keep riding the bike, with the lift gate/chain/etc you have to dismount and with the gate you probably have to stop and turn around.

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